the dow is up 20 right now. it will be an all-time record high. the 35th record high close for the dow this year. when news breaks out we'll brake in. see you then. this just in. get ready to pay up because the tacks are coming. they're just disguised. problem is they're not disguised very well. in fact they're not disguised at all. >> welcome, everybody. it's sort of like i say tomato, you say to matto. i say taxes, they say beef. let's just say they keep this up we call the whole recovery off pause for washington it's all the same thing, our money. they want more so get ready to part with it. a lot of it. both parties are coming after it. budget negotiations set to resume this week, and guess what else? a whole new language for taxes without calling them taxes. more like fees.

and surcharges. but hoping you won't notice the difference. start noticing because you'll be paying. take a look. includes raising airline security fees. 18 billion bucks. requiring workers to pay more into their own retirement plan. $20 billion. and how about increasing medicare premiums for higher income seniors? woe. how about 50 billion smackers and here's the real smackdown. not a one of these smackers is called taxes. you pay it. they just don't say it to washington and mike emanuel who is all over it. >> reporter: democrats want more tax revel knew as part of a double digit biehl and they include closing loopholes to increase money coming in as a way to do it. republicans prefer to cut spending in a smarter way across the board, cuts known as sequester, and would like to close loopholes as part of tax

reform that would lower rates. so nobody is talking about striking a big budget deal because the two sides are very far apart. the word "tax" is a toxic word with the g.o.p. but fees or loopholes may be easier to swallow, and user fee is mine sound friendly. on the airline security fees the idea would be a flat $10 for a round trip flight. if you take three flights you'd only be charged for one initial screening. the administration would like it to be bumped up to 7.50 each way, which they estimate would bring in close to $26 million. the airline industry is not happy, making it more expensive to fly. and then there's fees at our nuclear facilities that could generate $2.2 billion. nuclear energy generates 20% of the nation's electricity. of you charge the 100 reactors more it will undoubtedly be passed own to consumers in your electric bill and other ways.

barges, tug bows and towboats move more than 880 million-tons of domestic cargo. charging more to use inland waterways could generate $1.1 billion. on this veterans day, there's the passenger's health care he can program. one decide is making the military and retirees pay more for prescriptions. some of the ideas expected to be part of the discussionses as budget negotiators try to make progress. and they need to show progress before thanksgiving. >> amazing. thank you very much. just a reminder to folks here, if you're no not paying they money before and your paying it now, it's a tax. you can call it a fruitcake, you can call it a cannoli, but it's a tax. instead of looking for more ways to spend, here's a novel idea. try cutting the spending? if you haven't noticed we're

$17 trillion in the red. that amounts to more than $116,000 per taxpayer. market watcher larry glazer says it's time for washington to get real and focus less on semantics and doing stuff. but they're not doing that. >> they're not. and regardless how you slice it, you they're a form of taxation, and fees are creeping up at the state and local and national level, and the fees are mascaraedded as something we want rather than what we need. and if you look at user fees, they regresssive. the hurt the lowest socioeconomic fee. they're cowardly fees. they're hidden, and perhaps it is this reason why we're seeing this general disconnect in the overall economy. if you look, we haven't seen small business formation in this recovery. the way we should in a recovery. right? we're seeing consumer sentiment tanking in this recovery as the stock market is soaring.

and perhaps one of the reasons we're seeing personal income stifled along with capital investment because of the general belief, the more we geoff the more government wants, and the public is wise to that, regardless of what we call it. >> i wonder if they care. look at the corner of international broad. we have a 35th record of the year for the dow, coasting right along despite the fees. they accelerated at a breakneck pace and are going to continue to accelerate. so this is what republicans might accept in turn for what will be very little in the way of spending cuts. so what are we looking at here? >> they do care, and they do care as it relates the broad well become of the economy. the government can prop up the stock market and home values which should be very good for sentiment. gasoline prices coming down before the ohio should be very good. but we're actually having the opposite effect because the

public is smart. they know more and more money is coming out of their pockets and going to the government. what is interesting here, you pluck the feathers from the goose where it squawks the least, and in this case you hide user fees because the public won't tolerate higher taxes -- >> larry, it's not as if they're ignorant about, wait a minute, anyone who takes a look at an airline ticket realizes such a large portion of it are these various fees, ancillary otherwises, that have gotten this out of control here. anyone who travels or has a cell phone, knows very whole those fees have crept into a big chunk of the price. do politicians think by not calling it a tax -- if people aren't aware they're paying more just the same? >> we're sick and tired of getting nickel and dimed to death, but that nickel and diming is how they kick the can down the road. they slide it in here and slide it in there. if you have -- if you broadcast to the american public you're

going to raise taxes there will be a backlash. if you slide it in, in a disingenuous way, hike fees. a park, pay a fee, toll road, pay a fee. they don't call gas taxes user fees. we're talking about $55 billion worth of user fees, 17% increase in the budget. you draw the line with higher tax cozy which hurts the economy because it hurts the middle class. they have less money to spend on goods and services and you crowd out the private sector in exchange for big are public government. >> i just wish i saw the same creativity when it came to cutting spending. that's all. larry, thank you very much. they could say, you know, curtailing a cancer on america's soul. that might work. anyway, you like that health plan your boss gives you right now? good luck keeping it. could save you fifteen percent

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we're talking about 5% of the population. >> less than 5% of the folks in the individual market. >> a portion of the 5%. >> we're just talking about 5%. significant. nonetheless largely will do much better. >> just 5%. that works out to 15 million americans. my next guest is right. try 114 million americans which is a third of all americans. bete is -- i don't think i have run across anyone who has read this law more thoroughly, but understands it completely, eerily. betsy, how do you come up with the figure one out of three. >> if you have any kind of health coverage it's going to change. it already has changed. just weeks after the law was signed, the regulators from the department of labor, the department of health and human services and the irs got

together and wrote a series of regulations that made it virtually imupon for people who had their own plans or small group plans or in plans provided by big employers, and enself-insured employers, to keep the plan they had. >> why would those who were for -- >> because certain rules. all of these employers had to provide insurance for your child until your child reaches 26. all of them had to eliminate caps on annual and lifetime payouts -- >> they've already done that. >> yes, but when those requirements were put in, in 2010, it made it impossible to, quote, grandfather those plans because the insurers or the self-insurers had to collect the money from someone. those are expensive -- >> what happens now. >> so, now you're going to see the other shoe drop. you heard about the millions of people, in the individual market, who have gotten letters they're plans are cancelled. in the next year many millions of people in the small group market and who work for large

employers are either going to lose their coverage or see it very much changed. >> where did it go? whether they go to private exchanges or public exchanges, if they're used to what they have to, they're not going to have it. >> very different. but the exchanges, the obamacare exchanges are very different from what people who have had private health insurance expect. >> even going to a private exchange is different dramatically and they don't see that coming. >> let's look at these public exchanges because the president has said they'll be better, that what you have now is substandard or cut rate and this will be better. no. you will not have access to the doctors and hospitals you prefer. the law says that these public exchanges must depend on essential community providers who serve the low-income population. so they have to deal with the hospitals and doctors in the inner city, hospitals and doctors that charge medicaid rates, and that's what your doctor, your hospital is going to be paying --

>> what happens a year from now with the employer mandate? >> i'm not sure it's going to ever kick in, because don't forget, the administration quietly delayed it after they tried to get the nba, the nfl to woo young people into the exchanges. their last employ, the last desperate strategy, was to postpone the employer map debt so people who had health insurance and wouldn't going to get it from thunder employer would sign up on the exchanges. the last thing they're going to do is implement the employer mandate when no one is signing up yet on these exchanges. and you -- >> what does that mean for the average worker? >> well, it means that many of them will lose their on the job coverage, and have to go to the exchange don't forget, the congressional budget office told congress before they ever passed this law that fewer people would have on the job coverage after this law is passed than before it was passed. only washington would develop an employer mandate that reduces the likelihood you'll keep your insurance.

>> amazing. betsy, thank you. my next guest provides health coverage to 13 employees. now she has to tell them they can't keep their current plan, much to what betsy was just saying. doctor, explain what happened? >> well, we got a letter in the mail just last week that told us that our plan had been cancelled, and that we didn't make aca requirements, and that the new plan through humana that does fit the requirements is 60% more. >> so they at least told you the alternative, but it would cost you a lot more. so -- >> exactly. >> what are you doing now and what are those workers going to do? >> well, everybody is panicked. and so right now we're working with our insurance broker to try to find some sort of alternative that we can still offer our employees insurance but we just can't pay 60 parts more. so we're trying to find an alternative plan. the other choice is to say we can't provide health insurance, here's a little extra money in

your salary and you'll have to go on the exchange. >> what do you do? that's obviously an enticement for people to work with you, and when that is taken away, the argument is eventually they'll all go the way of the good doctor and other practices will be telling their workers the same. you experiencing it early and the workers will be pushed into either the public or private exchanges. you think that's the way it's going to go? >> i honestly don't know. i was talking with colleagues and they're all looking for plans to cover their employees, but a lot of them do feel that we're all going to have to go on the exchange at some point. i. >> all right. now, doctor, for your patients, who are already wrestling with a 0 lot of this, what do you tell them? i talk to doctors who say here's your bill, neil, and you sort it out. is that the way this is going? >> i honestly don't know. i'm an orthodontist so the insurance works a little different.

so i don't have to deal with insurances as deeply as a medical doctor or a general dentist. >> but bottom line, it's the same type of issue that a lot of front office staff for a lot of doctors of all types are really taxed just trying to interpret all of this. >> yes. we don't know. >> you don't know. >> well, yeah, we just don't know. when my employees ask what is going to happen in the future, say we don't know. we're doing the very best we can. >> do you think, doctor, when you tell your staff that -- is their immediate reaction -- obviously frantic -- have any of them said, i love working with you, but i got to get out of here and fine coverage somewhere else? >> no. luckily our employees are really on our side, and we're just like, wait a minute, you don't even have to provide us coverage. don't worry about it. and i've head some that say i'm just going to pay the penalty. don't worry about it. but i don't want to leave them high and dry so we're going to try to figure something out.

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graduate of the great inconstitution and a hero in his own right. if i were with the same resume it would all be about me, but dan is a different dude. thank you very much for coming. it was really nice to see west point graduates ringing the bell today, and i'm thinking, what's happened -- these are real heros and they're coming to a place and at a time where we either seem to forget what makes a hero or a political leaders don't do anything remotely heroic. what happened? >> well, the bell ringing was really fantastic, and to see 15 west point ceos bringing the new york stock exchange and the chairman of the stock change who was a rest point graduate was special. the leadership at west point, the principles are timeless. from the time it was founded in 1802 to the current cadets graduating, the principles of leadership are timeless, and in

our book we hope to tell inspirational stories that will inspire anyone from a ceo to congressman. >> but they're all selfless, all about putting country before yourself no finger-pointing, no blame. that seems out of step with today. >> they are. it was really interesting to start the book. by the way it wasn't just myself. it was a team effort. there were 25 contributing authors and 200 people involve. but to approach a ceo or a four-star general or ambassador and ask them to be in the book, almost universally they said i don't deserve to be in that back. that's for heroes. so their own framework was they don't deserve to be in a book about west point. so their humility and humble necessary came through. >> could never be tv anchors, that's clear. but they're all type-a personalities, take charge. where do you draw the line or lessons to be learned with take charge, command personalities,

who don't let the ego get to the point of dominating their decisions. >> it goes back to basic military training. it's unfortunate that fewer and fewer serve today than in the past. the greatest generation, we had 14 million people in uniform and they learned the basic principles of leadership in basic training. >> a lot of them were drafted. >> drafted, whether they volunteered or involuntarily went. that's why this generation that is serving is great because they're all volunteering. >> do you think we should have a draft? >> i think it would be a huge benoit nation but i don't think it would be politically possible to do sort that's why i think to learn principles from those who have serve, for those who vice-president, is -- for those who haven't. and the stories can tell the leadership principles in a way that people who haven't had the opportunity to serve, can learn those basic ten-tenets and prims

>> they're very reluctant to pull the trigger in battle and very careful about the role of a superpower. >> if agree. macarthur's final peach to -- speech to the corps spoke about that. a soldier hates war more than anyone. >> do you get a sense with a lot of civilians conducting -- that's the nature of our constitution, separating the military dish it's gotten to the point where we're almost ashamed of our greatness? >> that's a great question. i do think that with fewer and fewer having the opportunity to serve, they may be more likely to go to battle without their experience, but i do think that the number of people that have influence at the highest levels that have served, provide a balance to those who haven't. >> do you think going forward that america's place in the world just won't be what it was, west point training or not, the message is, we are declining

power? obviously west point cadets don't share that, but that's prevailing view. >> i think anytime there's a prevailing view it's where leadership comes through, people can say, we're the greatest country on earth -- >> we're almost afraid to say that. >> i think that's unfortunate, but some are. i'm not afraid to say that and the people who can have that optimism and unbridled enthusiasm and go forward and say we'll continue to be great, and whether we have a deficit or -- we'll overcome that and that's where the leadership -- we have west point graduates in congress on both sides of the aisle, and i like to see them providing leadership. senator jack reed from rhode island, congress men -- >> all parties represented. >> both parties and they lean across the aisle, and that's what we need more of, people able to led with courage, self-leslie and not trying to keep their own job. do the right thing. if they don't get re-elected do

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barometer for the economy. news corps, a former parent of fox, out with a profit of three cents a share. missed estimates slightly. the company has split in two, with largely print operations on one side, the news corps side on the other side, including fox news, fox business, and under fox a. news corp shares are by and large flat. the numbers on the flattish side. fox is earning also meeting expectations again on the softer side. this completes the first reading as a split company. in the meantime, tis the season for shopping, target putting a bull's eye on thanksgiving by opening its stores earlier than ever on thursday, 8:00 p.m.

lizzy has been keeping a list of those retailers putting the lights on. quite a few. >> that's true, neil. it sure seems that way. good to be with you. seems that retailers are worried with more stores than ever before open on thanksgiving. wall street analystses report that only slightly higher holiday shopping expectations, that's halt you can see this christmas, versus last year, again, due to the weak economy, poor job numbers and a short holiday shopping season with six fewer shopping days and that has the retail titans going at it. upping the apt at -- ante to get deals to shoppers nos. toys 'r' us, macy's, jc penney, best buy, kohls and sears opening on this, and the pt richardes advertising it is staying clotheses on thanksgiving, because it says

it's a day for family. and one thing that is also staying quiet this holiday season for now, no union protests about the extra holiday work like we saw last year. >> thank you very much. should retailers open on thanks in melissa says, yet, it's great for business and she loves to shop. keith says no, because it ruins a holiday and he has a heart up like melissa. mel lisa, you're all for this. >> they make 20 to 40% of their revenue -- can you imagine 40% in the period between thanksgiving and new year. they got to make it happen -- >> what does this do for that dow? don't they just go ahead and rob future sales and -- >> it's all about p.r. we're talking about it right now. so a free commercial. talking about target, toys 'r' us. how long does it take you to eat your turkey, you eat, put everybody in the car, go shopping. i say glad bless them.

>> you're right, depends on whether you like your family. keith, you just find this whole trend atrocious. right? >> well, i find it uniquely disturbing. this is a holiday always has been about family, for hundreds of years. not necessarily an american holiday, nor associated with rearview mirror it's been secular for many years. and what i have a problem with is we have forgotten the reason why we got that together and that was to sort of celebrate the mutual reinforcement of family to celebrate the blessings we received, and refleck upon the time we have gone through as a people. so, to me, yeah, going shopping is appalling. i think it's something that consumers increasingly don't want. they want to see value and integrate and trust, and in today's day and age this is another chink in the armor would we're losing it. >> you don't have to go shopping on thanksgiving. you're not being come ped. it's obama there and as an -- it's open and there as an option. the season is six days shorter, they have to do anything they

can to get the free advertising we're giving them right now and get people in the store. toys 'r' us is opening 5:00 p.m. people have complained they're disrespecting the family. i was as toys 'r' us over the weekend. i asked a guy if he was working over thanksgiving. the said, i hope so, i need the money. >> you were at a toys 'r' us. >> yes. times square so we could goo on the carousel. >> really? >> yes. >> keith, she does raise alegitimate point about, look, you have a choice. itself you don't want to be part of this heinous culture, then opt out and watch football. >> well, that's fine. itself you want have to black thursday, black friday, blacks wednesday, black tuesday, why not start allocating space for christmas decorations in february. this is the holidayization of america is becoming increasingly materialistic and we risk losing the reason that we put it in place in the first place. that's where i come down.

i have worked my share of holidays. >> me, too. >> i want my people to know i am out front so that's don't have to work if they don't want to i don't see ceos of the major retailers standing in line greeting consumers or working the cash registers, so until i see that i'm not going to back off. >> you don't have to go. i'll be with my family, not among those shopping, -- >> i don't believe it. >> i shop online. and that's what a lot of this is about, is brick and more tar trying to battle back against people like me who do their shopping online after their kids are in bed. that's how i do the holiday shopping. so the brick and mortar retailers are trying to do the best for their shareholders. >> you want your cake and eat it, too. >> i do. >> if still think melissa has a heart. >> well, sometimes. >> buried in the somewhere. >> thank you both very, very much. point, click and shift?

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of those horror movies where the people show up at the gate and it always says, "enter at your own risk, keep out" and they go in anyway. an administration got a million warnings from the private sector hour difficult and thorny this will be. and they're, i'm fine, i got this, and wanders in. and now looking back and calling for the private sector to bail them out. don't think it's going to work. it's too late. >> you can -- this is on "the wall street journal," others reporting it as well. official numbers are not out but it's close to this. that's disappointing. now you have amazon working with the u.s. post office for seven-day delivery, including delivery on sunday, and me thinks when i heard that, hey, maybe they can do something with the government on this healthcare thing, because they could make everyone a prime customer and find a way to enlighten them. >> it's a confident dynamic, neil. this is amazon and the post

office thinking of ways they can pro-actively move forward and work together. so they're being creative and saying we know how to do something for customersers and e can work with you to do it. the administration said, you will do this. this is the shoe horn and the straitjacket we're going to put around this incredibly complex system. the most complex system and complex issue for human beings, health care, and we're going to say how it has to be done. that's very different thing than amazon and the post office saying, hey, how can we creatively solve problems and work together. so all i would say is i think it is too late. they can't come bail the government's behind out on this one. i don't think so. >> yeah. thank you very. very much. a growing number of republicans, includingen rand paul, whatnots the president to delay the healthcare law.

but one thing, it's illegal to do it so says the judge. >> it's funny, neil. everybody thinks or seems like everybody thinks that -- and i sayre senator paul's sentiment -- the president can delay the onset of the tax of the individual mandate -- >> he delayed everything else. >> correct. and extend the time available to apply for the federal health care. he can't. he has been doing that so frequently as the president of the united states. i'm going to change the immigration laws because i don't like the way they're enforced. i'm going to change this aspect of the healthcare law because it's burden some so my labor union friends. when he does that and gets away with it, he creates the impression he is a character above the three branches of government who can just decide what laws apply and what laws don't. he doesn't have that authority. he took an oath faithfully to enforce the laws. that means all of the laws, whether they're helpful, hurtful, or he likes them or not. >> apparently this constitution

is a huge deal with you. >> it's a huge deal with -- >> let me get your sense, then. if he has done this before and argues in his defense that other presidents with big initiatives, including fdr, with social security, and lyndon johnson, medicare, they tinker, sometimes dramatically so, you're saying that all those were unconstitutional -- >> absolutely. now, look, the president can do whatever he can get away with. if he wants to bomb libya and kill gadhafi, unless the congress pulls back the funds and troops, he do it. if he wants to substantially change immigration law so people who are supposed to be prosecutors are not going to be. if congress or the courts don't do anything, he can get away with it. if he wants to delay the onset of the individual mandate or give you another six or eight or 12 months to sign up for obamacare and no one will intercede, he can get away with it. does he have the authority? no. >> how does it get done.

>> senator paul and others who understand the human misery obamacare has visited upon people will need to propose legislation, which both houses have to adopt and the president has to sign in order for this to be lawful. the whole reason for obamacare? was so that the 30 million uninsured could get insurance. guess what? a half of one percent according to the number you gave us of the 30 -- >> four million plus now who are without insurance, so, ironically, more without insurance now than when this thing first -- >> their insurance was cancelled because the government imposed higher burdens on the carriers than the insured were able to pay for. >> amazing. >> what a mels he created. can he change it by the stroke of a pen in probably because the congress will look the other way, yes; that doesn't make it lawful. >> amazing, judge, thank you very much. mean while, refuse to take your kids to mcdonald's. get ready for a big mac attack in divorce court? this is weird.

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one kid has hissy fit has a divorce court calling dad bad on his refusal to feed his son dinner from mcdonald's. attorney says it's not a complaint but karen thinks it's outrageous. you have no tolerance. >> no tolerance at all. it's absolutely outrageous she find a father would be unfit or his visitation should be reduced because he refused to feed his child a fastfood dinner. >> he sent the kid to bed without any dinner. >> he didn't send the child to bet. he dropped the child off at the mother's and he mother took the child to dinner.

so the child did eat. visitation will be reduced if there's a substantial change or harm or danger to the childful actually this father was helping the child. the child. actually this father was helping the child. >> but they're in a divorce so this gets blown out of proportion. >> none of this would be brought to light if his father had not filed a defamation lawsuit against the psychologist who said he was unfit. >> on that alone, kid has a temper tantrum, doesn't go to mcdonald's. >> that would never happen -- >> you have not met my kid. >> but it did happen, that's the problem. it happened. >> we do not know that's the reason he was called unfit. what we do know is he's been found for not paying his child support. he has flouted some of the other court orders. >> i know there's a lot of noise but this alone is not grounds -- >> absolutely not. >> the psychologist unfortunately found in her report that his failure to bring the child to mcdonald's creates

some issue. the viability of his parenting is at issue. which i think that's what -- >> do you think -- all this had been settled if he took the kid somewhere else, let's say to a vegetarian shop or whatever just so say at least i offered him something else. >> he did, gave him two choices. he said, look, son, either no mcdonald's, another choice for dinner or you go home. the child wanted mcdonald's, threw a temper tantrum. >> why couldn't he take the kid to mcdonald's for a salad? >> there's nothing wrong with giving a child choices. if the child chooses not to eat dinner rather than go anywhere than mcdonald's -- >> it's not up to the child -- >> exactly. >> if the child has two choices and he chooses not to eat as opposed to going to any other restaurant than mcdonald's, than he doesn't get dinner that night. i think that's fair. py don't thing any psychologist or judge would say that's unfit parenting.

>> i would agree, this doesn't add up. is it cruel? i mean, do you have a legal standing here? when it looks like you're deliberately starving your kid rather than go to the place the kid wanted to go? >> if he was stashing the child, that's different. try to enforce real parenting and at thing the child mcdonald's is not a good option, i'm sure that wouldn't happen every weekend. this weekend, he tried to instill the rule, we're not going to have fast food for dinner. that was his parenting strategy. if he's deliberately starving the child -- >> he could have been making a comment on how the weather is raising the child. >> that used to be evaluated as well. what the mother's doing and what the mother's feeding the child. >> that sounds like five boxes of pizzas -- >> so chicken nuggets either night. >> an example of how the divorce can reflect poorly on the child and make life more difficult on the child. at the end of the day, the kid will be embarrassed one day about a lawsuit about him throwing a temper tantrum over

going to mcdonald's. >> she added information i think is ridiculous. the issue of the mcdonald's trip should not have been added to that report. >> you don't get to see the report because it is confidential. this father has brought all this to light without all the information. >> well, food for thought. i thought that up myself. anyway, ladies, thank you so much. in the meantime, message to blow-hard politicians, quit talking, start listening. this day of all days. start remembering.

we're making that right a reality. we have to make sure all of you stay on it. you're going to have me every step of the way. >> what you're implying through your question is republicans have not to this point voted their conscience. how the hell would you know? how would you know? >> lens latist arsonists are at

work. >> this isn't some damn game. >> the disaster they forced on our country. >> and let the house work its will, i dare you to do that. >> shh, stop, tone down, actually, shut up. we have all heard enough. from politicians who love to talk and others who insist they're not politicians but seem to talk even more. now, i'm not saying there's anything horrible about any of you. i'm just saying about now i've had enough of you, all of you. the chest thumping. the grandstanding. this day of all days, take a cue from some real heroes and just stop talking. because before you wage your next pr battle, learn from some folks who have actually been through battle, our soldiers, our veterans, our bravest, our best. the folks a lot of you praise but apparently take very little time to emulate. you talk a good fight. they fight the good fight.

you say all the right words. they opt for few, if any, words. you're very big on sounding tough. they're big on being tough. this day, we honest our veterans, including those who made the ultimate sacrifice. let's honor what they fought for, including silently honoring that sacrifice, not with a bull horn but with a bowed head. and a quiet respect for those whose actions speak louder than any politician's words. who say it and mean it. and don't just promise it, then reverse it. who dough fieefend all in this no matter their party. so many squabbles, so little sense. so much finger-pointing. so few points. you would think after centuries of genuine heroes sacrificing their lives, disingenuous politicians would at the very least start sacrificing their hot air.

not by yapping endlessly but by showing quiet dignity. without bravado, just with bravery. not by blow harding you're a hero, just telling it like it is, but act like a hero and actually saying nothing at all. i would die to see the politician who gets that. who remembers those who really have died. and remember this, sometimes the latest guy in the room is the one saying nothing at all. [ "taps" playing ]

hello, everyone, i'm dana perino, along with kimberly guifoyle and my little friend greg gottfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." chris christie, the latest politician to compare himself to ronald reagan. we're going to show you what he said it after vince vaughn talks about what it's like to be a conservative in hollywood and george clooney takes a shot at anyone who doesn't believe in global warming. more on that in a minute. but first, obama's second term